Thanks for sharing. Just watched it and could not believe. Worst was how the treat their staff including stealing from them. Wow!
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Reality show at the best
by free2beme injust ran across this on huluplus!
worth the watch, even in an overload of reality shows.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ly7tj16pg&feature=share.
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I think I've planted a seed!
by OneDayillBeFree ini could be wrong, but i can't help but be a bit optimistic.last night my parents and i had our "family worship night".
i hate it, and i believe my mother does too.
my dad only does it because he's an elder but last night even he was acting like he didnt want to do it.
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Awsome. You have all the FACTS right and patiently wait until the right opportunity. You are a smart strategic person and I am proud of what you have been able to do.
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Were You Ever Interrogated By The Elders?
by minimus insome elders enjoy giving the business to the lowly flock thru intimidation.
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some love to ask you to enter with them into the "backroom".. of course, there were many that never had run-ins with the shepherds because they were under the radar.. did you ever get interrogatted by the elders and if so, how did it go??
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Only when my now wife and I requested to use the KH for our wedding talk. They wanted to make very sure nothing inappropriate happened during our courting. Was quite uncomfortable.
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Your worst convention experience.
by zeb inby a split second rescuing our handicapped son from being pushed down the stairs by a flood of sisters rushing out to see as the drama had started.. the main offender being a special pioneer..
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For Parents with Kids attending the 2013 DCs, please note the KM of April 2013: "Baby strollers should not be brought to the convention site". Good Luck!
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Have the leaders of JWs ever said 'sorry'?
by JWB inwell have they?
given that 'we are all imperfect and fall down many times' one would expect them to have made at least some mistakes since rutherford founded the jw religion.
as christians are supposed to be humble, including those who 'would be great among you', should we not have seen evidence of this over such a long time period?.
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This is the closest they came, following 1975:
*** w80 3/15 p. 17 par. 5 Choosing the Best Way of Life ***
5 In modern times such eagerness, commendable in itself, has led to attempts at setting dates for the desired liberation from the suffering and troubles that are the lot of persons throughout the earth. With the appearance of the book Life Everlasting—in Freedom of the Sons of God, and its comments as to how appropriate it would be for the millennial reign of Christ to parallel the seventh millennium of man’s existence, considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975. There were statements made then, and thereafter, stressing that this was only a possibility. Unfortunately, however, along with such cautionary information, there were other statements published that implied that such realization of hopes by that year was more of a probability than a mere possibility. It is to be regretted that these latter statements apparently overshadowed the cautionary ones and contributed to a buildup of the expectation already initiated.
"It is to be regretted" is the best they could do FIVE years after the 1975 failure.
Now look at the NEW LIGHT in the July 15, 2013 WT - pushing aside a century of teachings - again not the slightest apology - just the comment that some "adjustments" are needed.
In contrast, look at this apology:
“We are acutely aware of the heavy legacy of our past. Our flawed doctrinal understanding clouded the plain gospel of Jesus Christ and lead to a variety of wrong conclusions and unscriptural practices. We have much to repent of and apologize for. We were judgmental and self-righteous – condemning other Christians, calling them “so called Christians” and labeling them “deceived” and “instruments from Satan”. We imposed on our members a works-oriented approach to Christian living. We required adherence to burdensome regulations of the Old Testament Code. We exercised a strongly legalistic approach to church government. Our former old covenant approach fostered attitudes of exclusivism and superiority rather than the new covenant teachings of brotherhood and unity. We overemphasized predictive prophecy and prophetic speculation, minimizing the true gospel of salvation through Jesus Christ. These teachings and practices are a source of supreme regret. We are painfully mindful of the heartache and suffering that has resulted from them. We’ve been wrong. There was never intent to mislead anyone. We were so focused on what we believed we were doing for God that we didn’t recognize the spiritual path we were on. Our hearts go out to all whom our teachings have misled in the scriptures. We don’t minimize your spiritual disorientation and confusion. We earnestly desire your understanding and forgiveness. We make no attempt to cover up the doctrinal and scriptural errors of our past. It is not our intention to merely paper over our cracks. We are looking our history squarely in the face and confronting the faults and sins we find. They will always remain part of our history, serving as a perpetual reminder of the dangers of legalism.
This apology titled “Forgive us our trespasses” can be found in the magazine “The Plain Truth Magazine” of the Worldwide Church of God, after the death of their longtime leader Herbert W. Armstrong.
This is something the Governing Body will never ever do. CULT Leaders!
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100 Years of Disappointment on the Horizon
by mrquik ineven as an elder, i had doubts as to this being "the one true religion".
i personally had chosen 2014 as one of those "make or break" dates.
fortunately, i left years ago.
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Many persons have left mentally, but remain in physically. That is why so many publishers are either inactive or punch only token FS hours. They cannot leave as their conditional friendships will cease. People naturally resist change. This is no different when it comes to religion.
From what I see with my family still in, they have seen first-hand that virtually all friendships I built over the decades ceased and know this is what awaits them if they follow. They however fail to see the blessings of true freedom. The five years since leaving are the best years of my life!
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Jehovah generously provides?
by Rattigan350 inthe june 15 2013 w pg 13, para 6&7 has an experience of a pioneer that needed $66 to pay her rent the next day.
she prayed and went to work at her job as a waitress.
when she finished her shift she had received a total of $66 in tips.
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Probably a woman who was denied a higher education as the end was near and has never tapped into he talents. She now has a shitty part-time waitress job that allows her to pioneer. When her work conflicts with meetings and she misses an odd one, she feels guilty and perhaps gets told by the elders to do something about it. She has the wrong gender to have any more priviledges and needs to cover her head when she does anything remotely close to what a man should do. Poor girl should discover TTATT and start living.
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Jehovah generously provides?
by Rattigan350 inthe june 15 2013 w pg 13, para 6&7 has an experience of a pioneer that needed $66 to pay her rent the next day.
she prayed and went to work at her job as a waitress.
when she finished her shift she had received a total of $66 in tips.
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Thanks for the $66 belongs to those giving tips or to the person working her butt off to earn the tips. I always hated it when you did something for someone or gave them something at your expense and you did not get a proper thank you, but the comment Jehovah Provides. What a twisted and sick remark!
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Jehovah generously provides?
by Rattigan350 inthe june 15 2013 w pg 13, para 6&7 has an experience of a pioneer that needed $66 to pay her rent the next day.
she prayed and went to work at her job as a waitress.
when she finished her shift she had received a total of $66 in tips.
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$666 would have been the right amount!
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Yet another "Shunning is good for you, honest!" quote in the June 15th 2013 Watchtower
by cedars inhi folks.
that's right, the new june 15th 2013 study edition is out now on this link.... http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/28/w_e_20130615.pdf.
the following quote caught my eye, from the final study article on page 28.... .
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Great experience Rowan - thanks for sharing!